Shahuz Hassan: No solution to Syria without participation of AA in talks

The co-chair of the Democratic Union Party Shahuz Hassan said that without the participation of the representatives of the Autonomous Administration(AA)  in the political process and the consultations of the Constitutional Committee, we cannot talk about the success of these talks

He stressed that the mini-group of the countries of the International Alliance supports their participation, while the Russians repeatedly spoke about the lack of representation of the administration and the need to involve representatives of AA of the north and east of Syria.

Shahuz Hassan during an interview conducted by al-Sharq Al-Awsat newspaper, said that the participation of AA in northern and eastern Syria in the Geneva talks and the international conference on Daesh held in the city of Amouda.

The text of the interview:

- What is your assessment of the results of the talks of the UN envoy Geir Pedersen with the Syrian government and the "negotiating body" the opposition?

The components of north-eastern Syria have fought terrorism and defeated Daesh. Without their participation in the political process and in the constitutional committee, the success of these talks cannot be said. In the course of regular meetings between the representatives of the administration and the countries of the international coalition, led by the United States and France, everyone finds it necessary to participate in these negotiations, especially the Constitutional Committee. Even the Russians are talking about the absence of Kurdish representation in these talks and the need to involve them, and till now, no invitation or real step to participate in this Committee.

- Who opposes your participation?

The exclusion of the Syrian Kurds of these talks and the formation of the constitutional committee is the result of national and authoritarian nationalism. I mean Turkey and the Syrian regime, but if we want to achieve a sustainable peace and a real political solution that satisfies all parties, we must overcome this mentality because it is the root of the problem. The Kurds are all allied with all the components of the Arabs, Syriac, Assyrians, Turkmens and Circassians, and all have fought to liberate these lands from the terror of the "Daesh". Today they have formed a genuine democratic model through the Autonomous Administration. They must be represented in all the international talks on the Syrian crisis in the name of the democratic project which they represent on earth.

- Representatives of the "Syrian Democratic Council(MSD)" and Syrian opposition figures held a meeting in Paris to discuss the constitution, and there is a second meeting in Vienna to discuss the constitution. Are these meetings at the request of the coalition countries, or are they complementary to the meetings inside Syria?

The Paris meeting was a continuation of the dialogues held at home this year, where we held 3 meetings between the opposition leaders, bringing together parties, currents and opposition figures; twice in Ain Issa and the third in Kobani. We will hold a series of meetings and workshops in Western and Arab countries to reach a joint political participation and democratic consensus.

At the Paris workshop, we discussed the constitution, governance and political system. There is a general tendency among the opposition forces to involve the representatives of the Autonomous Administration in north-eastern Syria and the participation of "democratic Syria" in the Geneva negotiations and in the constitutional committee.

- Have you received an invitation from the "Negotiating Body" to join it?

We have not received an official invitation from the Negotiating Body to join or work under its umbrella, but we have heard through the media that there is a tendency to expand it and to join the Syrian Democratic Council. We see the possibility of developing the Syrian-Syrian dialogue, which is a transitional necessity. This dialogue must be based on acceptance of the other and on a democratic basis that is far from national fanaticism or sectarian extremism. But let me be precise on this point. There are thorny issues between us and a part of the opposition, especially the " the Syria Coalition. Afrin is still occupied by factions that follow this coalition and practiced the policy of ethnic cleansing against our people there under the umbrella and protection of the Turkish army. Before talking about any accession or dialogue, confidence-building must be activated, destructive policies must be removed which has practiced the demographic change of Afrin residents.

- What about your talks with Damascus?

We are open to negotiations and dialogues, either with the regime or with all opposition parties without exception, but there are no real negotiations or talks between us and the regime. We are defending our regions. We have liberated them from terrorism. We are ready for dialogue. We are working for a decentralized democratic state. There is a real experience on the ground, the Autonomous Administration, and everyone must respect these sacrifices.

We are working to find a comprehensive political solution at the country level to ensure freedom and dignity, establish a decentralized democratic system, end decades of tyranny, totalitarianism and one-party, release all political detainees and reveal the fate of the abducted and forcibly disappeared. The future of Syria must be based on realistic, not betting on some field developments or media statements of major countries or simple tactical changes, our approach to political solution on the basis of a democratic system is a strategic issue and a sustainable option, and dialogue to ensure the success of all outstanding issues in all its forms.

- Do you demand that the areas of "East Euphrates" remain semi-independent?

For example, the path of Astana brings together contradictory countries in the Syrian war, and each country supports factions and warring parties on the ground. Besides, there are contradictions between Russia and Turkey on the one hand, and Turkey and Iran on the other, which overshadows the situation on the ground and what is happening in Idlib is the biggest evidence of these contradictions and the absence of a real solution there. In the absence of real change on the ground and the stumbling of the political process, we will develop the model of Autonomous Administration and protect the achievements of our people, who sacrificed in the fight against terrorism and the payment of thousands of sacrifices, and any political process must take into account the privacy of this region and its military forces.

- AA received European and Western delegations and the convening of an international forum on «Daesh» was held in the town of Amouda, is there an international trend to legitimize the experience of the administration?

Some countries have come to our region to legitimize and recognize the experience of the administration, and there are second countries that find the victory of the military forces on terrorism to protect the global security. Some countries came to repatriate their nationals from the women and children of the families of the elements of the Daesh detained here. Most of the countries we visited recently are members of the international coalition against Daesh .


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