Mari al-Shebli: U.S-Turkish convergence is reason for Turkish-Russian dispute

Mari al-Shebli explained the reasons of deteriorating of the Turkish-Russian relations and their reflects over the accelerated events' courses in Idlib and also pointed to the sensitivity of the current stage which requires gathering all the efforts and working on overcoming the obstacles to end the Syrian crisis.

The military and the political scene in Idlib is complicating, the Syrian Regime achieved quick and surprising progress on the expense of the other factions supported by Turkey headed by Haaiet Tahrir al-Sham, in this regard, ANHA conducted an interview with the member of Presidential Council of Syria's Democratic Council, Mari al-Shebli.

The text of the interview:

What is the reason for the deterioration of the Turkish-Russian relations and why does Russia describe Turkey as a state that supports terrorism at this stage?

In these difficult circumstances in Syria we note recently that countries are led by interests without a doubt and this applies to the deterioration of Turkish-Russian relations, and the direct reason for this is the occurrence of US-Turkish rapprochement through agreement on the safe area, and this led to Russians resent this approach.

This deterioration in relations led to the reflection of differences on the ground through the launching of military operations and the cancellation of the agreements signed in Astana regarding the checkpoints in Idlib, and the decisive issue in this regard was the direct Russian threat to the Turkish forces and give them 24 hours to withdraw from their points in Hama countryside.

What did Russia hope to give the S-400 missiles to the Turks?

Russia could have hoped that Turkey would emerge from NATO and move it out of the Western alliance,  we all know that Turkey is an influential member of NATO in terms of the number of troops that could be the first country of NATO, and the removal of Turkey from this alliance means weakening NATO, even in any way.

The Russians also want Turkey to be withdrawn from NATO to be included in the Sino-Russian-Iranian alliance to formulate a clear and tangible rival to the West.

What will be the shape of the next phase in Astana, which will see an enlarged meeting on September 27 with the participation of the guarantors alongside Germany and France?

It is noteworthy in this last meeting that we have said in the current period that the departure of both the Turks and the Iranians from Syria is a must and those who will remain on the ground are only the Americans and the Russians and the accession of Germany and France is to fill the vacuum that will result from the withdrawal of the Turks and their mercenaries.

The US administration has recently stated that it has a responsibility to pursue terrorists in Syria. On the other hand, Jabhat al-Nusra is on the US terrorism list, will we see American action in Idlib against these groups?

Jabhat al-Nusra is undoubtedly a terrorist and the superpowers have a great role in manufacturing terrorism to be used as tools to stabilize interests in the place they want and the time they choose.

  If there is a Russian-American consensus in the region, something will change the course of al-Nusra's presence in Idlib, which has been used by many countries.

What is your point of view regarding the nature of the next stage and the question of the liberation of Syrian territory?

 This liberation will be done by the Syrian people. The right will be restored by force. We can say that there will be Syrian forces allied with each other to recover the land from all the occupiers who looted our goods and had a hand in killing our people.

I also want to point out that Aleppo is still under the fire of Turkish troops and mercenaries, which is only 8 kilometers from the city center, and Erdogan is still going back to history and indicates that Aleppo was a Turkish state, it is just a dream.

We can say that the Turkish intervention in Syria was to kill the secular project where we sought to build a new decentralized and pluralistic Syria.

Al-Shebli said the situation in Syria will not be easily resolved without a full national conference for all Syrians and he called on all opposition parties to dialogue and move on a political shift after the consensus of all parties according to the outcomes of Geneva 2254.   



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